Listen to the Mishnah ▶ 0:00 0:00 1× Transcript ▾ Hello chevre and thank you for joining me on learning together along with me. Today's mishna is Masechtas Menachos, perek yud, mishna gimmel. As we've discussed, the tenth perek of Menachos focuses on the harvesting of the Korban Omer, the first barley Korban Mincha brought in the Beis Hamikdash, and it was always brought on the sixteenth of Nisan, the day after the first day of Pesach. So you brought the Korban Pesach on yud daled Nisan, you then spent the first day of yom tov, and then that evening on the eve of the sixteenth of Nisan they would harvest the barley to bring the Korban Omer. As we've already spoken about, the Baisusim, a sect of Jews that lived during that period of time, read the Torah a little bit more literally, and the Torah says that the Korban Omer is brought mimochoras hashabbos, on the day after Shabbos, and they understood that literally as being the first Sunday following the first day of Pesach. So if Pesach was on a Tuesday, you would bring the Omer the following Sunday. And at times there was machlokes over this, serious machlokes, disputes between the Baisusim and the Chachamim, to the point where the Baisusim tried to ensure that the sixteenth of Nisan always fell on a Sunday so that the Korban Omer would be brought in accordance with their thinking, which was always on a Sunday. So our mishna here, mishna gimmel, is actually very fascinating because first of all it is one of the more descriptive mishnayos throughout shisha sidrei mishna about a ceremony taking place related to the Beis Hamikdash. We have masechtos built around that as well like there's Masechtas Tamid, there's Yuma, parts of Shekalim, and other masechtos that have small parts of the ceremony, but this is a very descriptive one. But more importantly we'll see that the entire ceremony was built around the idea of challenging the Baisusi viewpoint. So let's see, you'll see what I mean as we learn the mishna. So the mishna begins like this: Keitzad hayu osim? How was it that they went about harvesting the barley for the Korban Omer? So first of all שלוחי בית דין יוצאים מערב יום טוב. First of all the agents of the emissaries of the Beis Din of Yerushalayim would go out into the fields but when did they do this? They went erev Pesach. Erev Pesach they would be busying themselves to go out into the fields ועושים אותו כריכות במחובר לקרקע. They would go and they would tie together the barley into bundles but they wouldn't detach it, it would remain attached because the harvest had to be on the eve of the sixteenth, but this way it would be easier to harvest because it would already be bundled or tied together כדי שיהא נוח לקצור so that it will be easier to harvest. It's easier to take the sickle and to cut it when it's all together rather than grabbing it at that time. So now after they did that the shluchei beis din would go back I guess and they would bring their Korban Pesach, they would enjoy their eating their matzah and their maror and their Korban Pesach in the night, saying Hallel, spend the next day with their family, and then the following evening they would get ready to harvest. Now the mishna continues: וכל העיירות הסמוכות לשם מתכנסות לשם. And all of the residents of the cities that were near the place where they would harvest gather in that field כדי שיהא נקצר בעסק גדול so that when it came to harvesting the barley it would be done with great fanfare. Now we had seen in mishna beis of this perek that the mitzvah really was to harvest as much as you could as close to Yerushalayim as possible and presumably with all the Jews being up in Yerushalayim for Korban Pesach and Aliyah l'Regel it would probably be very packed with people. So some mefarshim understand that when our mishna says that the people in the surrounding cities would come and gather, it could be when they needed to go beyond Yerushalayim or the environs nearby Yerushalayim but further out in order for the harvest, so it could be that that's when you needed to get people from the local municipalities to join in to make it into a bigger deal, into a big fanfare. But be it as it may, keivan shechasheicha as soon as it would become dark omer lahem the person who was about to harvest or one of the kohanim or one of the people from the beis din would say Ba hashemesh? Did the sun set? V'omrim hen yes! Ba hashemesh? did the sun set? Omrim hen and they would scream yes. It's interesting that we see this also when it came to the Korban Tamid in the morning also the kohanim would ask has the first light shown so there was always this kind of focus on did the light is it starting to be is it daybreak or now is it chasheicha is it night time so that it's now permitted it's no longer yom tov and therefore we can start to harvest. Now even if it's Shabbos they would harvest but you weren't supposed to harvest it on yom tov but only after yom tov went away. Okay, so we continue and the mishna says: Magal zu? So the person about to harvest would say should I be using this... this sickle and and omrin hen they would say yes. Magal zu, should I use this sickle? Omrin hen, they would say yes. So again, building, building up the and the enthusiasm and the excitement of the process. Kupa zu, should I use this container to put it in? Omrin hen, they said yes. Kupa zu, should I use this container? Omrin hen, they said yes. Now bashabbos, if it was shabbos, amru lahen, shabbos zu? If it was shabbos they would scream out is today still shabbos, meaning motzei yomtov is Friday night so it's shabbos, is it shabbos? Omrin hen, they'd say yes. Shabbos zu, is it shabbos? Omrin hen, they would say yes. And even so he would go and cut. Ekzor, should I cut? והם אומרין לו קצור. They would say, ktzor, cut. Ekzor, should I cut? I will cut. והם אומרין לו קצור. They still go and cut. Now the mishnah repeats each of these stages in twos but then the mishnah concludes by saying שלוש פעמים על כל דבר ודבר. Really they didn't do it twice, they would really say it three times. והם אומרין לו הן הן הן. And each time they would repeat going yes, yes, yes. This type of responsiveness in three or that's really not pairs of three but in cycles of three is well known in the chachamim's, you know when the chachamim have these ceremonies we find it by the sotah, by in the chalitza, by parah aduma and by when they're mekadesh, when they sanctify the new moon and rosh chodesh. There was always this three repeats of back and forth between the crowd and the person leading the ceremony itself and that's in order to build enthusiasm and to kind of drill in the idea that we're going to take each of these steps. Vekol kach lama? So the mishnah asks the obvious question, why did they need such a elaborate ceremony? Mipnei habaitusim, because the baitusim, shehayu omrim, because the baitusim held, they would say אין קצירת העומר במוצאי יום טוב. That typically speaking you did not harvest the barley on motzei yomtov unless of course it fell on Sunday. Otherwise it would always fall on motzei shabbos of the shabbos following the first day of pesach. So this whole idea is, and we do find this a lot, that when the chachamim were fighting with the different sects, so whether it's the baitusim or the tzedukim, they didn't very much necessarily engage in dialogue and try to convince the other side, but rather they would do these public ceremonies that would enshrine and establish the way the chachamim wanted the ceremony to be done and we find that throughout mishnayos as well. Anyway, so as I said this mishnah is quite descriptive of the process itself and more importantly it's making a point that the chachamim were trying to make against the baitusim and with that I wish you continued hatzlacha.
Mishnah Menachos · Chapter 10 · Mishnah 3
Maseches Menachos · Seder Kodashim
מְנָחוֹת י:ג · Menachos 10:3
כֵּיצַד הָיוּ עוֹשִׂים.
שְׁלוּחֵי בֵית דִּין יוֹצְאִים מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב,
וְעוֹשִׂים אוֹתוֹ כְרִיכוֹת בִּמְחֻבָּר לַקַּרְקַע,
כְּדֵי שֶׁיְּהֵא נוֹחַ לִקְצֹר.
וְכָל הָעֲיָרוֹת הַסְּמוּכוֹת לְשָׁם, מִתְכַּנְּסוֹת לְשָׁם,
כְּדֵי שֶׁיְּהֵא נִקְצָר בְּעֵסֶק גָּדוֹל.
כֵּיוָן שֶׁחֲשֵׁכָה, אוֹמֵר לָהֶם, בָּא הַשָּׁמֶשׁ, אוֹמְרִים, הֵן. בָּא הַשָּׁמֶשׁ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן.
מַגָּל זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן. מַגָּל זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן.
קֻפָּה זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן. קֻפָּה זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן.
בְּשַׁבָּת אוֹמֵר לָהֶם, שַׁבָּת זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן. שַׁבָּת זוֹ, אוֹמְרִים הֵן.
אֶקְצֹר, וְהֵם אוֹמְרִים לוֹ קְצֹר. אֶקְצֹר, וְהֵם אוֹמְרִים לוֹ קְצֹר.
שָׁלשׁ פְּעָמִים עַל כָּל דָּבָר וְדָבָר, וְהֵם אוֹמְרִים לוֹ הֵן, הֵן, הֵן.
וְכָל כָּךְ לָמָּה. מִפְּנֵי הַבַּיְתוֹסִים, שֶׁהָיוּ אוֹמְרִים, אֵין קְצִירַת הָעֹמֶר בְּמוֹצָאֵי יוֹם טוֹב.
How was it performed? Court emissaries went out on the eve of the Festival, fashioning sheaves while still attached to the ground — so it would be easy to reap. All the towns nearby assembled there — so it would be reaped with great fanfare. Once darkness fell, he said to them: Has the sun set? Yes. Yes. This sickle? Yes. Yes. This basket? Yes. Yes. On Shabbos: This Shabbos? Yes. Yes. Shall I reap? Cut. Cut. Three times for each and every matter — and they would say to him: Yes, yes, yes. Why all of this? Because of the Baissusim, who would say: there is no Omer harvest at the conclusion of Yom Tov.
The timeline — 36 hours from preparation to ceremony
14th Nisan · Daytime
Erev Pesach — Preparation
מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב
Emissaries form sheaves while grain still in ground. Towns nearby assemble.
15th Nisan · Full day
The first day of Pesach
יוֹם טוֹב
Pesach itself passes. ~36 hours between preparation and ceremony.
15th Nisan at nightfall · Start of 16th
Motzaei Yom Tov — The Ceremony
כֵּיוָן שֶׁחֲשֵׁכָה
Darkness at the conclusion of Yom Tov. Triple ceremony begins. Reaping commences.
The call-and-response ceremony
Each element confirmed twice — the triple rule then applied to all
בָּא הַשָּׁמֶשׁ? בָּא הַשָּׁמֶשׁ?
הֵן הֵן
מַגָּל זוֹ? מַגָּל זוֹ?
הֵן הֵן
קֻפָּה זוֹ? קֻפָּה זוֹ?
הֵן הֵן
שַׁבָּת זוֹ? שַׁבָּת זוֹ? — when 16th falls on Shabbos
הֵן הֵן
אֶקְצֹר? אֶקְצֹר?
קְצֹר קְצֹר
שָׁלשׁ פְּעָמִים עַל כָּל דָּבָר וְדָבָר
Three times for each and every matter — the governing rule of the ceremony
The Baissusim controversy — why the ceremony was designed this way
The Baissusim held
אֵין קְצִירַת הָעֹמֶר בְּמוֹצָאֵי יוֹם טוֹב
The Omer harvest cannot take place at the conclusion of Yom Tov. They read "the day after the Shabbos" (Vayikra 23:11) as the literal weekly Shabbos — the Omer must always fall on a Sunday, and Shavuos likewise always on a Sunday.
The Sages hold
מוֹצָאֵי יוֹם טוֹב — 16th Nisan
"The day after the Shabbos" means the day after the first day of Pesach, which is called Shabbos. The Omer falls on the 16th of Nisan, whatever day of the week it is. The public triple ceremony dramatically announces this.
Position in Maseches Menachos
Place in the tractate
This is the third mishnah of Chapter 10 of Menachos — the Omer chapter. The chapter opens with the disputes about quantities and processing, then this mishnah turns to the ceremony itself. It is the most vivid and theatrical moment in the entire chapter.
The triple-confirmation pattern
The Mishnat Eretz Yisroel notes that triple confirmation is a universal feature of Mishnaic ceremonial — it appears in Sotah, Chalitza, Parah Adumah, and the sanctification of the new month. The pattern was not invented for the Baissusim dispute; it was harnessed for it.
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