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עֶרֶב פֶּסַח · Erev Pesach Series · 6 of 14
עַד הַגְּשָׁמִים — פֶּסַח כְּנְקֻדַּת סִיּוּם
Until the Rains — Pesach as an Endpoint for Vows
נדרים ח׳:ה׳
Nedarim 8:5 — Full Text
עַד הַגְּשָׁמִים, עַד שֶׁיִּהְיוּ הַגְּשָׁמִים, עַד שֶׁתֵּרֵד רְבִיעָה שְׁנִיָּה. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר, עַד שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ זְמַנָּהּ שֶׁל רְבִיעָה.

עַד שֶׁיִּפָּסְקוּ גְשָׁמִים — עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא נִיסָן כֻּלּוֹ, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר, עַד שֶׁיַּעֲבֹר הַפֶּסַח.

קוֹנָם יַיִן שֶׁאֵינִי טוֹעֵם הַשָּׁנָה — נִתְעַבְּרָה הַשָּׁנָה, אָסוּר בָּהּ וּבְעִבּוּרָהּ. עַד רֹאשׁ אֲדָר — עַד רֹאשׁ אֲדָר הָרִאשׁוֹן. עַד סוֹף אֲדָר — עַד סוֹף אֲדָר הָרִאשׁוֹן.

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר, קוֹנָם יַיִן שֶׁאֵינִי טוֹעֵם עַד שֶׁיְּהֵא הַפֶּסַח — אֵינוֹ אָסוּר אֶלָּא עַד לֵיל הַפֶּסַח, שֶׁלֹּא נִתְכַּוֵּן זֶה אֶלָּא עַד שָׁעָה שֶׁדֶּרֶךְ בְּנֵי אָדָם לִשְׁתּוֹת יָיִן.
נֶדֶר הַגְּשָׁמִים: Vows Tied to the Rain Season
Three phrases for the start of rain — and a dispute on when rains are considered to have ended
Vows Referencing the Arrival of Rain
עַד הַגְּשָׁמִים / עַד שֶׁיִּהְיוּ הַגְּשָׁמִים
Both phrases mean: until the second rainfall (רְבִיעָה שְׁנִיָּה) arrives. The second rain is the halachic threshold for the rainy season having properly begun.
עַד שֶׁתֵּרֵד רְבִיעָה שְׁנִיָּה
Explicitly until the second rainfall — Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: until the time of the second rainfall arrives, even if it has not yet actually fallen.
Dispute: When Do the Rains "End"?
רַבִּי מֵאִיר
עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא נִיסָן כֻּלּוֹ
Until all of Nissan has passed — the entire month of Nissan is considered rain season. Even if no rain has fallen, the season legally continues through 30 Nissan.
רַבִּי יְהוּדָה
עַד שֶׁיַּעֲבֹר הַפֶּסַח
Until Pesach passes — Pesach marks the end of the rain season. Once the festival ends, rains are no longer expected and the vow expires.
נֶדֶר יַיִן: The Wine Vow and the Leap Year Problem
What happens when someone vows to abstain from wine "this year" — and the year is then declared a leap year?
קוֹנָם יַיִן שֶׁאֵינִי טוֹעֵם הַשָּׁנָה — The Annual Wine Vow
קוֹנָם יַיִן שֶׁאֵינִי טוֹעֵם הַשָּׁנָה — נִתְעַבְּרָה הַשָּׁנָה — אָסוּר בָּהּ וּבְעִבּוּרָהּ
Someone vows: "Wine is forbidden to me this year." The year is then declared a leap year — he is forbidden for the original year AND the added month. The intercalated Adar II is legally part of "this year."
The vow is interpreted at the moment it was made — the person said "this year," and the year turned out to be 13 months. The extended year is still the same "year" he vowed about.
הַשָּׁנָה — בָּהּ וּבְעִבּוּרָהּ
The year includes its extension
Adar Vows in a Leap Year
עַד רֹאשׁ אֲדָר
In a leap year: until Rosh Chodesh Adar I — the first Adar. The vow expires at the first occurrence of the named month.
עַד סוֹף אֲדָר
In a leap year: until the end of Adar I — not Adar II. The default reading is the first Adar unless specified otherwise.
רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: קוֹנָם יַיִן שֶׁאֵינִי טוֹעֵם עַד שֶׁיְּהֵא הַפֶּסַח — אֵינוֹ אָסוּר אֶלָּא עַד לֵיל הַפֶּסַח, שֶׁלֹּא נִתְכַּוֵּן זֶה אֶלָּא עַד שָׁעָה שֶׁדֶּרֶךְ בְּנֵי אָדָם לִשְׁתּוֹת יָיִן
R. Yehudah's remarkable ruling: "until Pesach has been" for a wine vow means only until Pesach night — because the vow-maker's intent was to abstain until the time when people customarily drink wine. Pesach night is that time. Intent overrides literal language.
הַמַּסְקָנָה — Pesach at the Center of the Calendar
Nedarim 8:5 uses Pesach as a natural endpoint in three distinct contexts: the close of the rain season (R. Yehudah), the annual wine vow that spans a leap year, and R. Yehudah's intent-based reading that Pesach night is when people drink wine. In each case, Pesach is not a religious technicality but a lived social reality — everyone knows when it is, what it means, and how people behave around it. Together with Nedarim 8:2, this mishnah shows that Pesach functions as the calendar's most reliable fixed point: farmers, vow-makers, and courts all orient themselves by it.
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